In this episode of the Starting Point podcast, Jay Seegert welcomes Dr. Chris Rupe to discuss the controversial topic of human evolution, focusing on the famous fossil known as Lucy. Dr. Rupe shares his background in biology and geology, detailing his journey from doubt to confidence in the biblical account of creation. The conversation delves into the evidence surrounding Lucy, challenging traditional views and exploring the implications for understanding human origins from a biblical perspective. In this conversation, Dr. Christopher Rupe discusses the anatomical features of Lucy’s hip, the implications of her reconstruction, and presents the Pygmy Human Hypothesis, arguing that Lucy was a small-bodied human rather than an ape. He highlights the significance of the knee joint and other features that align with human anatomy, challenging the traditional views of human evolution and suggesting that both Lucy and the Hobbit represent a population of pygmy humans. The discussion concludes with resources for further exploration of these ideas and the implications for understanding human origins.